Why do people give up salsa?

I haven't given up salsa, but I came very close to quitting the scene because I realised:

- spending 5 years in the scene, hanging out with the same folks 3-4x a week, going to parties, staying out late - all that time invested into something very fleeting. I have come to realise that the people I hung out with so much were not genuine, true friends I could count on. The salsa scene just tends to produce fleeting friends, who are here this month, and gone the next. I mean I met some good people but I had hoped to make real lifelong friends with a lot of them but time somehow showed them to be flakes. I learned that going to parties and eating out at denny's with people for years doesn't make a solid friendship.

- i made the mistake of getting caught up in all the drama. I somehow seemed to always be told about every little piece of gossip about everyone else.. one sees and knows about the personal lives of a lot of people, and a lot of it can be very murky. After a while, I became very cynical in my view of human beings in general, because i had heard about which guy had played which poor girl - who I might have seen like a little sister, or which girl played two best friends in the salsa scene, and god knows what else. there are numerous, more personal stories of course, and a lot of pain I could have avoided. Nothing worse than walking into a room knowing everyone there has affected each others' personal lives in some way in the past.

The conclusion I came to was that the dance in itself is amazing and fun. The socializing side of it, or the 'scene' is intrinsically unhealthy and being too involved or vested in it emotionally is not worth it. I think people leave the scene because they realise that there is nothing substantial to be gained by putting in so much time dancing, at the expense of having a balanced life, with non-salsa friends, etc. i don't think one can have a wholesome life if they are going out 3-4x a week, staying out late, dancing for hours, spending time with people but no real relationships develop, beyond a 'hi' 'bye'.. i think this is all an illusion

Hence my conclusion to extricate myself out of the social scene, but not the dance scene. ie, stay on a team and practice, dance 1x a week, but not really socialize with anyone in it. I have found it best to socialize outside of it. People in my scene might look at me and think , 'oh, he's left the scene'... but i see it as cutting out the unhealthy part of salsa and keeping only the best parts - the dance
 
Congrats on finding balance. Certainly, I have problems with the lateness of "the scene" and don't go out nearly as much as when I first discovered my addiction.
 
For me it was that my time and funds increasingly gave priority to ballroom training & competition. All things being equal, I'd still be taking my lessons and going out salsa dancing because I sure enjoy it. But it's been two years since I did that regularly. I simply made other choices...
 
After a really bad night (like the last time I went out), I won't go for a couple of weeks, althought don't think I'ld ever give it up completely..

One thing that does demotivate (in class and socials) is too many WOMEN and not enough MEN - especially those of a decent standard. I only danced with one guy who was the same/better standard last time the whole night (and I'm only Int) :(
 
One thing that does demotivate (in class and socials) is too many WOMEN and not enough MEN - especially those of a decent standard. I only danced with one guy who was the same/better standard last time the whole night (and I'm only Int) :(

Dancing with somebody clearly less skilled can be trying. And I speak from my experience in ballroom - my salsa is mediocre at best. But if all the women only dance with the "good" leaders, they will in essence be driving away guys who won't have a chance to improve, no?

We have newbies come to our studio ballroom practice parties who are frankly not very good and sometimes an actual chore to dance with. But we make it a point to dance with them and make them feel welcome because they WILL improve in time and we want the studio to be a success financially - new blood is a good thing.
 
We have newbies come to our studio ballroom practice parties who are frankly not very good and sometimes an actual chore to dance with. But we make it a point to dance with them and make them feel welcome because they WILL improve in time and we want the studio to be a success financially - new blood is a good thing.

yep. dancing with beginners has its own joy & rewards.
 
Dancing with somebody clearly less skilled can be trying. And I speak from my experience in ballroom - my salsa is mediocre at best. But if all the women only dance with the "good" leaders, they will in essence be driving away guys who won't have a chance to improve, no?

We have newbies come to our studio ballroom practice parties who are frankly not very good and sometimes an actual chore to dance with. But we make it a point to dance with them and make them feel welcome because they WILL improve in time and we want the studio to be a success financially - new blood is a good thing.

Nicely put. How else does someone achieve a "decent standard", other than to start out as a beginner and get better eventually?

As for ILiketoJive's complaint about too few men, maybe that's something to do with her location? I find that salsa in my area is pretty much the only dance where I find a good balance of leaders and followers.
 
I think that most people see salsa as a social activity (i.e. going to a bar/club, having drinks, meeting men/women). That whole see can be tiring and exhausting, which is why, IMHO, people drop off.
 
One thing that does demotivate (in class and socials) is too many WOMEN and not enough MEN - especially those of a decent standard. I only danced with one guy who was the same/better standard last time the whole night (and I'm only Int) :(

Interestingly where I am (Philadelphia), we have the gender inequality F>>M for the ballroom scene both social and lessons, but in group lessons for salsa over the last few years (especially intermediate and higher) I've been seeing more and more M>F. I'd like to get back into club salsa after having spent a while being intimidated by some of the advanced scene (more my mental leap than anything).
 
I think that most people see salsa as a social activity (i.e. going to a bar/club, having drinks, meeting men/women). That whole see can be tiring and exhausting, which is why, IMHO, people drop off.

Makes sense - I'm not much of a 'club scene' person so I do my dancing at studio parties and avoid that whole issue.
 
more reasons:

people get older...feel they have less energy to keep up with the sometimes rapid-fire salsa dancing....

people find a new "hobby". They may still appreciate the music and the dance, but at the time they were in it, salsa was like their obsessive hobby. And now they have simply found another new hobby. I tend to be this way with alot of things in my life. I find something I like to do...photography, jewelry-making, etc.... and I get really into it for a few months, and then the interest wanes and I find a new hobby.
 
wow, yes I've seen this too, in cuba, in new york, and just about any major city. And It's not just the black cubans but african-american men also. They seem to believe and act like black women are not "worthy". To some extent it's because there aren't as many black women in the scene as there are white/latino/asian women who can dance. But I've experienced enough to see that it's deeper than that

And this kind of racism was a healthy challenge for me becuase it partly inspired me to be a great dancer, to the point that I CAN now ignore these men, and make them pay for their racism because I can have my pick of partners for the most part.
And because of this differntial treatment, I will hardly ever ask black men to dance even though I'm African, because I want them to acknowledge that it is a privilege to dance with ME, so I let them do the asking...that is if I stick around (sometimes I avoid these guys anyway)

This is a very deep topic, maybe we need another thread for it

All I can say about this is... wow!!! Now I know Im not crazy! I go through this allllllll the time and my peers try to make me think its all in my head!
 
All I can say about this is... wow!!! Now I know Im not crazy! I go through this allllllll the time and my peers try to make me think its all in my head!


Damn. I'll be sure and head straight for the black women next time! As a white guy I feel a bit intimidated, feeling like I'm playing gooseberry to the woman and the music, both of afro descent, while I'm a pasty-faced software guy from England. But I didn't know they were getting such a tough time! *slaps self for making knatumptions of himself*
 
[...] salsa was like their obsessive hobby. And now they have simply found another new hobby. I tend to be this way with alot of things in my life. I find something I like to do...photography, jewelry-making, etc.... and I get really into it for a few months, and then the interest wanes and I find a new hobby.

I've been that way with a number of hobbies myself.

I've seen something like that with ballroom dancing.. I can't count how many people have started taking lessons at the studio I go to, been very dedicated, and then *poof* they're gone after 3-6 months. And I don't see them at other dance venues, so I have to assume they've given up BR for whatever reason.
 

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