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Lilly_of_the_valley
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Yes, I have, in Buenos Aires. They are absolutely amazing dancers, and extremely nice people.
No less, no more, just right. They are dancing to a slow Canaro vals. Thanks for posting. This is one of my favorite videos of them. Wonderful musicality.
LatinDancer006
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Forgive my ignorance. I have taken only a few classes in AT. I don't see anything in this video. Nothing "flashy" and the steps are not too complicated. Posture could use some improvement.
Lilly_of_the_valley
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Taken only a few classes in AT and, I assume, having a ballroom dance background? You are forgiven
A short explanation -- Argentine tango is very, very different.
Ampster
Active Member
Good one, Ampster.
To someone mangle one of the people who posted in response to your well written post,
from flash to flesh?
To someone mangle one of the people who posted in response to your well written post,
from flash to flesh?
Ampster
Active Member
Thank you, Steve.
In answer to your question (flash to flesh), not quite. The reply talks about going from the outside (flash) to "visceral" which in this case pertains, to being "Instinctive" (by definition)
kieronneedscake
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Heresy Alert
Try as I might, I can't find an angle to enjoy that video. I have watched it a dozen times now to try and understand what others praise so highly about it, but it doesn't seem to help. I see lots to respect and admire, but I am unmoved by it - I now intend to challenge myself to dance with similar restraint if I can.
Here are the things I see:
1. Great restraint. It takes great confidence and skill to lead so little and to not do more. I sometimes lead steps in order to restore equilibrium, where this couple have never lost it in the first place. Coca feels no need to display fancy footwork either. She is comfortable as is.
2. Total connection. She follows with great attentiveness. Make no mistake, the clever footwork combinations are NOT EASY, particularly while retaining close embrace. Similarly, the microscopic steps are only possible with super-strong connection.
3. No risk. Both positive and negative - I personally like to see people operating at the edges, but at the same time there is never anything to disturb the dance.
4. Interesting mixtures of motions, combining both fluidity and sharpness (with specific reference to Osvaldo's feet).
I'm not too fussed about the musical interpretation, possibly because it differs strongly from how I react to vals music. I also see very little manifestation of interaction between the couple, which is something I enjoy seeing. I appreciate some of the couple's other performances more than this one, so I'm not damning them, just intrigued.
Please, assembled tango connoisseurs, tell me what you see and try to articulate why it should move you strongly?
Try as I might, I can't find an angle to enjoy that video. I have watched it a dozen times now to try and understand what others praise so highly about it, but it doesn't seem to help. I see lots to respect and admire, but I am unmoved by it - I now intend to challenge myself to dance with similar restraint if I can.
Here are the things I see:
1. Great restraint. It takes great confidence and skill to lead so little and to not do more. I sometimes lead steps in order to restore equilibrium, where this couple have never lost it in the first place. Coca feels no need to display fancy footwork either. She is comfortable as is.
2. Total connection. She follows with great attentiveness. Make no mistake, the clever footwork combinations are NOT EASY, particularly while retaining close embrace. Similarly, the microscopic steps are only possible with super-strong connection.
3. No risk. Both positive and negative - I personally like to see people operating at the edges, but at the same time there is never anything to disturb the dance.
4. Interesting mixtures of motions, combining both fluidity and sharpness (with specific reference to Osvaldo's feet).
I'm not too fussed about the musical interpretation, possibly because it differs strongly from how I react to vals music. I also see very little manifestation of interaction between the couple, which is something I enjoy seeing. I appreciate some of the couple's other performances more than this one, so I'm not damning them, just intrigued.
Please, assembled tango connoisseurs, tell me what you see and try to articulate why it should move you strongly?
Frist a disclaimer - I can't make these embedded videos work, so I can't comment on that, and maybe I shouldn't even be posting; but I can comment on this aspect of it.
It's that "super-strong connection" that is so attractive, and it's what totally pulled me into this kind of tango. And you can experience this with a total stranger, if you are both of the same mind, and body. And there it is again, blending so much with someone else that it feels as if their steps are your own. Very intoxicating.
Someone wrote already about not being able to see it until you've become familiar with it yourself. You may know that researchers have found, using brain imaging technology, that when trained dancers see someone perform movements that they themselves can do, the same areas of the brain that would make that movement happen are active. In other words, in a sense, they are "experiencing" the same sensations as if they themselves were doing the movements.
The brains of non dancers do not show the same activity.
P.S. Guess my attempted pun didn't work so well.
It's that "super-strong connection" that is so attractive, and it's what totally pulled me into this kind of tango. And you can experience this with a total stranger, if you are both of the same mind, and body. And there it is again, blending so much with someone else that it feels as if their steps are your own. Very intoxicating.
Someone wrote already about not being able to see it until you've become familiar with it yourself. You may know that researchers have found, using brain imaging technology, that when trained dancers see someone perform movements that they themselves can do, the same areas of the brain that would make that movement happen are active. In other words, in a sense, they are "experiencing" the same sensations as if they themselves were doing the movements.
The brains of non dancers do not show the same activity.
P.S. Guess my attempted pun didn't work so well.
I have to say, I'm with you on this video. If I get a chance I'll watch it again tonight, but thus far it didn't really move me. I had no qualms with the steps, but more with the style/form.
I will say that the turn he led (starting around 35 seconds into the video) was different from any I've done. I had to watch it a few times to figure it out.
BTW, the some of comments about this video on youtube are a bit humorous.
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Lilly_of_the_valley
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I think it's completely OK that not everyone likes the same in tango. Especially about musical interpretation, which is a subjective matter.
I am glad you shared your appreciation of some things in this video. I would not agree with anyone who says there is nothing to it at all. But no one is obligated to like it, of course.
Peaches
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+1
(Damn not being able to post something with less than four characters.)
