Ballroom Dance > American Smooth Shoes

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by astoria, Aug 13, 2011.

  1. NonieS

    NonieS Well-Known Member

    I do not remember. I didn't get to dance in them (there was no point since they were so wide on me), but I did try pointing my feet. I don't remember having any problems. I have pretty strong feet though and haven't really had a problem manhandling any shoe to point... but I remember the Valeria did not offer any significant resistance to my foot pointing whims.
  2. j_alexandra

    j_alexandra Well-Known Member

    Thanks! Good to know. I have a ridiculous yen to go to Worldtone, get in the car RIGHT NOW. I don't know if that's a Sign from the Universe or I just want to get out of the house...
  3. gracie

    gracie Active Member

    Never have a problem with Capezio Isis. Soft, flexible- narrow heel and wide toe box and it works. New ones right out of the box don't cause blisters.
  4. gracie

    gracie Active Member

    good for me wide in toe box. Thanks!!
  5. NonieS

    NonieS Well-Known Member

    Last time I went to world tone they had a small selection of smooth shoes. The Dance Feel shoes I had to buy from danceshopper...
  6. dancerman

    dancerman Active Member

    there is a heel guard (protector) available for almost any shoe and we can have any style desgined if a shoe is provided for us to send to the factory
    We jut took on the distributorship for FPGALA out of Poland. They design and manufacture heel protectors and a few other items for us. They currently have approximately 25 different styles of heel protectors including several colors to match the shoe (black included). We have sample boards for any retailer who may be having difficulty finding the right ones. I have sent shoes and heel protectors to them and they are redesigning some to our specification to make them more durable and to save the heels.
    The heel tips on the shoes don't generally wear because of the shoe but the weight the dancer places on the heel when pivoting and the angle they are leaning. We see all the time heel tips (also called lifts) wear unevenly because a dancer is leaning in a certain direction. I am not saying they shouldn't lean I am saying that is why it happens.
    Star Dance shoes is one of many made in China such as Very Fine, Stephanie, Go Go dance, DSOL, etc. We have had some shoes companies (names withheld) who have been allowing the China factory use poor quality heel tips that have been breaking off and we are not carrying certain brand(s) now (name withheld) because of that. ;) The heel tip is only as good as the metal (or plastic) pin it is mounted on. If that pin is too thin or too weak, a hard land on it will snap it off. Bye bye shoes (or, buy buy shoes if you are at a competition when it happens)
    Supadance makes several quality smooth shoes including the 1207, 1208 anf 1216. They are all visible on our website. If you need a narrow smooth shoe with great flexibility try the 1216 with mesh. Larinda wears that shoe and if you want info she may share it with you if you ask nice. Larinda is very demanding of her shoes (just like her students, guys, right?) If its good enough for Larinda, so to speak. The 7901 is also a good shoe; the 7 series shoes being manufactured in China for Supadance under their label.
    As far as heel protectors we have also contracted the factory to design several more popular sizes and styles with suede on the bottom for better durability and easier glide. Please go to our ttleaddancewear com website and see our shoe accessory page for the fphgala brand.
    Tell JT is she sends me a sample shoe I will either send it back with heel protectors or I can have them made to fit. I am known as Dr. Shoe and that is what I do.

  7. dancerman

    dancerman Active Member


    I will also be contacting Star dance to let them know we can help.
    Please, anyone, feel free to call them as well.

    then send us your shoes and we will send them back with properly fitting heel protectors.
  8. 5678dance

    5678dance Active Member


    The search for the perfect balance between stability and flexibility in smooth shoes continues!

    I had worn the Supa 1208's a few years ago but found my foot would point out of the shoe and the strap did not provide enough stability for me, so although I was hesitant at first, I made the switch over to a court shoe and never came back. I was willing to sacrifice a little flexibility for the stability at the time.

    Yesterday, the heel on my ray rose court shoe broke!!! :eek: snapped clean in half, I couldn't believe it. So I need a new shoe STAT. I wore the mirage and while I still love them, I am now considering getting a different court shoe that has a strap (since i have to wear the clear shoe bands with the mirages and I don't like it.) I'm looking at the ray rose serengeti, although i'm hesitant to get another RR shoe since my mirage heel snapped, or the supa 1012, although I don't think those will have as much flexibility. I DO want to be able to point as much as possible...

    On top of all of that, I'm really tempted to try the RR nevada... I think they're beautiful. But again, I'm hesitant about RR now........

    any advice/experience with any of these shoes is greatly appreciated :)
  9. middy

    middy Well-Known Member

    Looking at a bargain pair of Supadance 7901s, which look similar to the 1208/1207s...anyone tried those? I tried on the 1207s once and they fit me pretty well. The 7901s seem to be part of their "value" line, but I'm okay with that because I'd only use them for competitions. So long as the fit is similar.

    I keep wavering back and forth about whether to get real smooth shoes or continue wearing my diagonal-strap court shoes for smooth. If only I had unlimited funds...
  10. middy

    middy Well-Known Member

    Does anyone know if this shoe: http:// www . is the same as this one?

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  12. mindputtee

    mindputtee Well-Known Member

    I did not realize that internationals now makes smooth shoes! My search for the perfect smooth shoe may finally be over!
  13. middy

    middy Well-Known Member

    They were really nice! Very flexible. I haven't had any International shoes before. They did run very small. I am an US 8/8.5 street size, wear Supadance 1004s in UK 6, and I fit in the International smooth shoes in UK 5.
  14. mindputtee

    mindputtee Well-Known Member

    Flexible is exactly what I'm looking for! Have you worn other internationals? I wear a 4 in the international superstar (6.5 street shoe) but I don't want to order too big. Do you think it's safe to assume I'll still be a 4?
  15. middy

    middy Well-Known Member

    I haven't, so I don't know, sorry!
  16. Dancey

    Dancey Member

    This seems like a good place to ask...I'm looking into buying a pair of International smooth shoes w/ a 2" heel. Anyone happen to have an idea of how they would compare to Ray Rose sizes? I wear the Ray Rose Nevada in a size 4.5 Medium (2.5" heel).

  17. Sania

    Sania Well-Known Member

    My recollection is that the opinion on the site has been that Internationals run narrower, but I can't speak to it from personal experience.
  18. Dancey

    Dancey Member

    Figured I'd follow up for another point of reference, I ended up being a size 4 in the IDS smooth shoes compared to a 4.5 in the Ray Rose. Normal width fit me perfectly, I have slightly narrow feet.

    I got their new "American Flex" style and I LOVE them. Usually I only tolerate heels because I have to for dance. Most comfortable heels I've ever had, finally :)
  19. Bushytail3

    Bushytail3 New Member

    I just found this thread and have two questions regarding smooth shoes.

    1) The "American Flex" style that IDS makes looks like my best bet. However, I would like to know more about them before I purchase. Does anyone have any photos of the shoe from other angles like straight on, the inside, from the back, etc.? Maybe something showing how flexible they are? All the websites give me is one view...from the side...which is not that helpful.

    2) I am specifically looking for a smooth shoe (and eventually want to find a new pair of standard shoes), that allows my big toe as much room as possible. It absolutely cannot be squished sideways as usually happens in a closed toe shoe. Rounded toes are thus a must, but I am having trouble finding closed toe shoes that have a straighter "inside edge".

    Any help would be great. Thanks!
  20. BrokeForBallroom

    BrokeForBallroom New Member

    Hi Bushytail3, I wish I could help you more with this. I did get a pair of IDS american flex late last year, and have only really worn them for competitions. Unfortunately they are in storage at the moment so I can't take any pictures for you. I find them extremely comfortable. The edge of the toebox has an elastic in it, which I found I strongly prefer (I was trying on smooth shoes at vendors at a competition) over shoes with no stretch there. I wouldn't say the inside is cushioned, but to me it always feel extremely soft somehow. Like you've got a sock made of a really soft material on your toes. The only other thing I should note is that the heel runs low. I tried both the 2" and 2.5", and the 2" feels distinctly lower then my 2" practice heels, while the 2.5" is just barely higher. I haven't had any issues with pointing my toes in them, but I'm also not consistent at all with doing that, so take it with a grain of salt.

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