General Dance Discussion > (Dance) Partners: for better or worse

Discussion in 'General Dance Discussion' started by elisedance, Sep 6, 2007.

  1. Phooey

    Phooey New Member

    That isn't to say that women can't be completely rational, objective, or self-assured people. They certainly can. Men certainly have their insecurities, but I am not sure they are manifested in the same way, nor do we ask the same type of underhanded/loaded questions.

    Men often have conversations that are for the purpose of "information gathering". I have a problem. I ask Joe how to fix the problem. He says use hammer A. I think I should use hammer B. The solution for me, is to bring Joe to Bob and ask Bob's opinion which hammer to use. Bob says use hammer A, we all go home happy, no intimations anything other than trying to solve the problem of which hammer to use. These sort of phone calls last about 20 seconds and are very direct, impersonal, and practical. This is the approach newbie is taking right now.

    How the securities of men manifest, I defer to your expertise. But we generally do not ask loaded questions for this purpose, such as "Does this make my butt look big?"
  2. IndyLady

    IndyLady Well-Known Member

    Yeah no, men can be (and often are) just as passive-aggressive and underhanded as women, and vice versa. I see it every day at work. And at dance. And these "20 second nothing but the facts" convos are a myth.... guys spend just as much time talking and b.s.-ing as their female counterparts.

    In any case, the sooner one learns to read between the lines (regardless of gender), the less perplexing these types of interactions like newbie's will be.
  3. Requiem

    Requiem Member

    I think it's reasonable for people to objectively discuss progress over dinner, but I don't think that's what was happening here. Based on newbie's description, his partner's reaction seemed quite emotional. She refused the dance, said nothing over the course of around 15 minutes, followed by a single terse statement. If she had been looking for objective discussion, she likely would have responded by asking/discussing what they could do better.

    Others have already said it, but I still want to emphasize it. New material is not necessary for learning, especially for a physical activity and especially for an activity involving a partnership. It's about how well you know the material, and how well you can execute it, especially in uncertain environments. Learning can be done through practice even without a teacher.
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  4. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    The problem is that her question was incomplete. She really meant to ask, "So, do you feel that you learned more in this second half of the season partnering with me, than you would have if you hadn't?"
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  5. MaggieMoves

    MaggieMoves Well-Known Member

    Some drama in my life as I've just recently relocated again and now bumping into some guys I used to dance with. One of them was my partner for about 3 years, so there's a lot of history there and at the same time drama. Apparently 2 years apart is not long enough to forget some of drama, as he was recently at the same social dance I was at and simply refused to dance with me. He was courteous, but disingenuous.

    To make matters worse - I was recently asked to participate in a show... with him as my partner. Even more oddly, he's already agreed to it knowing I'd be the woman he'd be partnered up with. :confused:

    I just said I'd think about it. ;)
  6. DL

    DL Well-Known Member

    Perhaps he made both decisions based on information of which you are not completely aware.
  7. Loki

    Loki Well-Known Member

    Uh huh. And you want to deal with that goofiness again?
  8. MaggieMoves

    MaggieMoves Well-Known Member

    I said I'd think about it to be polite and not reject him in front of half the studio. I told the studio this week that I am not interested in the showcase/performance.

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