Ballroom Dance > Has anyone ever achieved gold status on most of the 10 styles in 1 year?

Discussion in 'Ballroom Dance' started by carlosyabrudy, Apr 8, 2017.

  1. snapdancer

    snapdancer Well-Known Member

    I hadn't heard of a social dance test. Looked it up, and discovered:
    Social Dance Tests 1, 2, 3, 4
    These are introductory tests at a social level, which may be taken by candidates of any age group. Two dances should be shown in each test and a minimum of two figures shown in each dance. Technical accuracy is not expected and parts 2, 3 and 4 do not require a higher standard of dancing than part 1. Staying in time with the music is of primary importance.​

    I don't think it's an actual competition that compares your dancing to that of others. Rather, it's a medal test where your dancing ability is compared to a standard and you either pass or fail.
     
  2. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    Even for this one at least here in England, there will be a trophy for first place, numbers on back and it is being judged against other couples. I am being put through high standards for the lessons I have whether this is a tough competition or not. I'm not being allowed any slack especially with posture and foot positions.

    It isn't a social dance test I am taking.
    I am competing against others who are at this level. Make more sense?
     
  3. MaggieMoves

    MaggieMoves Well-Known Member

    Good luck!
     
  4. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    It IS a thing. A rather BIG thing over there.
     
  5. DL

    DL Well-Known Member

    I privately cleared that with the moderators back in 2014. (I asked specifically about 'upsilon' u+03C5 as a substitute for 'u'.) Then I posted the workaround publicly for the first time (can't remember which thread).

    Above I used a math symbol instead of upsilon, only because I was too lazy at that moment either to find my own research or repeat it, when looking for the 'best' unicode look-alike for 'u'.
     
  6. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    Best wishes! I hope you and your instructor are pleased with your dancing AND that it helps set the next bunch of work/goals/etc.
     
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  7. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    Thanks guys. All is being worked on strictly. Frame issues are being ironed out.

    I'm investing in steel rodded jackets so my frame never falters
    and camouflaged latin heels that are sandalwood colour so that the judges can never see my latin heel leads! :dancingbanana::dancingbanana::dancingbanana::dancingbanana:
    [​IMG]
     
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  8. Requiem

    Requiem Member

    Forgive my noobness, but I've never heard of people using things like these in a competition before. I've heard of a sort of bar used to keep the frame up, but only in the context of building muscle memory while training. Does anyone know if they work, i.e., can they actually fool the judges?
     
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  9. JudeMorrigan

    JudeMorrigan Well-Known Member

    I am *pretty* sure he was joking.
     
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  10. Requiem

    Requiem Member

    OK, thanks~ I must be a little slow today, but I thought I might be missing out on some sweet tech :D
     
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  11. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Yeah I'm guessing that was a joke.
     
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  12. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    Haha. Please don't go buying the above shoes.

    It is certainly a joke. I'm creating my own dance humour early into things. I like seeing the funny side of life too....

    P.s. Cedarwood also available just in case they try to trick you with darker floors too!
     
  13. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    Ok. So I competed. Closed in Quickstep and Cha Cha on Sunday and here is what happened.

    Quickstep - Social Dance Test Level (Pre Bronze and Bronze also on this day) as soon as I started, my frame started to falter 30 seconds into it and was noticeable. There were only 7 of us. 6 were female in the U35 and one was male (me) the others dancing I know and some I didn't but all had years of experience (2+) it seems like people don't compete this fast. I have 2 months experience. So I didn't qualify for blackpool on this one. My observation after watching the video playback was that every other males frame was perfect as they were instructors so to not stick out like a sore human in 2 weeks when I compete again, my frame must be immaculate and not dip at all. Strides must be longer to compensate for the slower tempo of music that I wasn't expecting. I had been practicing to faster stuff.

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    Cha Cha - larger category and 12 couples. 6 chosen for final. I didn't get through on this one. I was lacking some upper body work which is seen by other dancers and the sharpness of placement legwork. I had the occasional bent knee though I have been working hard on this for hours by myself in the unused studio. The routine is autopilot but I struggled on the hand to hand as I wasn't winding my hip back into it enough until recently. On the day I was shown how to better it prior to going up.

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    I had no nervousness on the day and simply wanted to show people what I can do. I will do everything much better to a higher standard on 4th June.

    This is Carlos signing off.
     
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  14. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    Current progress 2 months in: anything ticked is now not needed to be thought about to demonstrate.

    LATIN SYLLABUS



    Cha Cha

    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Basic Movements (Closed, Open, In Place)✔️
    2. New York (to Left or Right Side Position)✔️
    3. Spot Turns to Left or Right (including Switch and Underarm Turns)✔️
    4. Shoulder to Shoulder (Left Side and Right Side)✔️
    5. Hand to Hand (to Right and Left Side Position)✔️
    6. Three Cha Cha Chas (Forward and Back)✔️
    7. Side Steps (to Left or Right)✔️
    8. There and Back
    9. Time Steps✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Fan✔️
    2. Alemana
    3. Hockey Stick ✔️
    4. Natural Top
    5. Natural Opening Out Movement
    6. Closed Hip Twist

    SILVER

    1. Open Hip Twist
    2. Reverse Top
    3. Opening Out from Reverse Top
    4. Aida
    5. Spiral Turns (Spiral, Curl, Rope Spinning)
    6. Cross Basic
    7. Cuban Breaks (including Split Cuban Breaks)✔️
    8. Chase

    GOLD

    1. Advanced Hip Twist
    2. Hip Twist Spiral
    3. Turkish Towel
    4. Sweetheart
    5. Follow My Leader
    6. Foot Changes


    Rumba

    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Basic Movements (Closed, Open, In Place, Alternative)✔️
    2. Cucarachas (LF and RF)✔️
    3. New York (to Left or Right Side Position)✔️
    4. Spot Turns to Left or Right (including Switch and Underarm Turns)✔️
    5. Shoulder to Shoulder (Left Side and Right Side)✔️
    6. Hand to Hand (to Right and Left Side Position)✔️
    7. Progressive Walks Forward or Back
    8. Side Steps (to Left or Right)
    9. Cuban Rocks✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Fan✔️
    2. Alemana✔️
    3. Hockey Stick✔️
    4. Natural Top
    5. Opening Out to Right and Left✔️
    6. Natural Opening Out Movement✔️
    7. Closed Hip Twist

    SILVER

    1. Open Hip Twist
    2. Reverse Top
    3. Opening Out from Reverse Top
    4. Aida
    5. Spiral Turns (Spiral, Curl, Rope Spinning)

    GOLD

    1. Sliding Doors
    2. Fencing
    3. Three Threes
    4. Three Alemanas
    5. Hip Twists (Advanced, Continuous, Circular)


    Samba


    PRE-BRONZE *

    1. Basic Movements (Natural, Reverse, Side, Progressive)✔️
    2. Whisks (also with Lady's underarm turn) ✔️
    3. Samba Walks (Promenade, Side, Stationary)✔️
    4. Rhythm Bounce✔️
    5. Volta Movements✔️
    6. Travelling Bota Fogos Forward✔️
    7. Criss Cross Bota Fogos (Shadow Bota Fogos)✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Travelling Bota Fogos Back
    2. Bota Fogos to Promenade and Counter Promenade
    3. Criss Cross Voltas
    4. Solo Spot Volta
    5. Foot Changes
    6. Shadow Travelling Volta
    7. Reverse Turn
    8. Corta Jaca
    9. Closed Rocks

    SILVER

    1. Open Rocks
    2. Back Rocks
    3. Plait
    4. Rolling off the Arm
    5. Argentine Crosses
    6. Maypole
    7. Shadow Circular Volta

    GOLD

    1. Contra Botafogos
    2. Roundabout
    3. Natural Roll
    4. Reverse Roll
    5. Promenade and Counter Promenade Runs
    6. Three Step Turn
    7. Samba Locks
    8. Cruzados Walks and Locks


    Jive

    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Basic in Place✔️
    2. Fallaway Rock✔️
    3. Fallaway Throwaway
    4. Link ✔️
    5. Change of Places Right to Left✔️
    6. Change of Places Left to Right
    7. Change of Hands Behind Back✔️
    8. Hip Bump (Left Shoulder Shove)✔️

    BRONZE

    1. American Spin✔️
    2. Walks
    3. Stop and Go✔️
    4. Mooch✔️
    5. Whip✔️
    6. Whip Throwaway

    SILVER

    1. Reverse Whip
    2. Windmill
    3. Spanish Arms
    4. Rolling off the Arm
    5. Simple Spin
    6. Miami Special

    GOLD

    1. Curly Whip
    2. Shoulder Spin
    3. Toe Heel Swivels
    4. Chugging
    5. Chicken Walks
    6. Catapult
    7. Stalking Walks, Flicks and Break


    Paso Doble

    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Sur Place
    2. Basic Movement
    3. Chasses to Right or Left (including Elevations)
    4. Drag
    5. Deplacement (also Attack)
    6. Promenade Link (also Promenade Close)
    7. Promenade
    8. Ecart (Fallaway Whisk)
    9. Separation
    10. Separation with Lady's Caping Walk


    BRONZE

    1. Fallaway Ending to Separation
    2. Huit
    3. Sixteen
    4. Promenade and Counter Promenade
    5. Grand Circle
    6. Open Telemark
    SILVER

    1. La Passe
    2. Banderillas
    3. Twist Turn
    4. Fallaway Reverse Turn
    5. Coup de Pique
    6. Left Foot Variation
    7. Spanish Lines
    8. Flamenco Taps
    9. GOLD
    1. Syncopated Separation
    2. Travelling Spins from PP
    3. Travelling Spins from CPP
    4. Fregolina (also Farol)
    5. Twists
    6. Chasse Cape (including Outside Turn)
    BALLROOM SYLLABUS


    Waltz


    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Closed Changes ✔️
    2. Natural Turn✔️
    3. Reverse Turn✔️
    4. Natural Spin Turn✔️
    5. Whisk✔️
    6. Chasse from PP✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Closed Impetus ✔️
    2. Hesitation Change ✔️
    3. Outside Change ✔️
    4. Reverse Corte
    5. Back Whisk
    6. Basic Weave ✔️
    7. Double Reverse Spin ✔️
    8. Reverse Pivot
    9. Back Lock ✔️
    10. Progressive Chasse to R ✔️

    SILVER

    1. Weave from PP
    2. Closed Telemark
    3. Open Telemark and Cross Hesitation
    4. Open Telemark and Wing
    5. Open Impetus and Cross Hesitation
    6. Open Impetus and Wing
    7. Outside Spin✔️
    8. Turning Lock
    9. Drag Hesitation

    GOLD

    1. Left Whisk
    2. Contra Check
    3. Closed Wing
    4. Turning Lock to R
    5. Fallaway Reverse and Slip Pivot
    6. Hover Corte
    7. Fallaway Whisk


    Quickstep


    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Quarter Turn to R ✔️
    2. Natural Turn✔️
    3. Natural Turn with Hesitation ✔️
    4. Natural Pivot Turn
    5. Natural Spin Turn ✔️
    6. Progressive Chasse ✔️
    7. Chasse Reverse Turn
    8. Forward Lock✔️
    9. Quarter Turn to Left (Heel Pivot)✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Closed Impetus
    2. Backward Lock ✔️
    3. Reverse Pivot
    4. Progressive Chasse to R✔️
    5. Tipple Chasse to R✔️
    6. Running Finish
    7. Natural Turn and Back Lock✔️
    8. Double Reverse Spin✔️
    9. Zig Zag, Back Lock, Running Finish
    10. Cross Chasse
    11. Change of Direction

    SILVER

    1. Quick Open Reverse ✔️
    2. Fishtail
    3. Running Right Turn✔️
    4. Four Quick Run
    5. V6 ✔️
    6. Closed Telemark

    GOLD

    1. Cross Swivel
    2. Six Quick Run✔️
    3. Rumba Cross
    4. Tipsy to Right and Left
    5. Hover Corte


    Tango


    PRE-BRONZE

    1. Walk ✔️
    2. Progressive Side Step✔️
    3. Progressive Link ✔️
    4. Closed Promenade ✔️
    5. Natural Rock Turn ✔️
    6. Open Reverse Turn, Lady Outside✔️
    7. Back Corte✔️

    BRONZE

    1. Open Reverse Turn, Lady in Line
    2. Progressive Side Step Reverse Turn QQS, SS, QQS, QQS
    3. Open Promenade✔️
    4. LF and RF Rocks✔️
    5. Natural Twist Turn✔️
    6. Natural Promenade Turn

    SILVER

    1. Promenade Link✔️
    2. Four Step✔️
    3. Back Open Promenade
    4. Outside Swivels✔️
    5. Fallaway Promenade
    6. Four Step Change
    7. Brush Tap

    GOLD

    1. Fallaway Four Step
    2. Oversway
    3. Basic Reverse Turn
    4. The Chase
    5. Fallaway Reverse and Slip Pivot
    6. Five Step
    7. Contra Check
    Foxtrot

    PRE-BRONZE *

    1. Feather ✔️
    2. Three Step✔️
    3. Natural Turn✔️
    4. Reverse Turn with Feather Finish✔️
    5. Closed Impetus with Feather Finish

    BRONZE

    1. Natural Weave✔️
    2. Change of Direction✔️
    3. Basic Weave✔️

    SILVER

    1. Closed Telemark
    2. Open Telemark and Feather Ending
    3. Top Spin
    4. Hover Feather
    5. Hover Telemark (and to PP)
    6. Natural Telemark
    7. Hover Cross
    8. Open Telemark, Natural Turn, Outside Swivel, Feather Ending
    9. Open Impetus
    10. Weave from PP
    11. Reverse Wave✔️
    12. Natural Weave from PP

    GOLD

    1. Natural Twist Turn
    2. Curved Feather to Back Feather
    3. Natural Zig Zag from PP
    4. Fallaway Reverse and Slip Pivot
    5. Natural Hover Telemark
    6. Bounce Fallaway with Weave Ending


    Viennese Waltz

    • BRONZE
      1. Natural Turn✔️
      2. Reverse Turn✔️
      3. Closed Changes Forward✔️
      4. Closed Changes Backward✔️


    • SILVER
      1. Reverse Fleckerl


    • GOLD
      1. Natural Fleckerl
      2. Contra Check
     
  15. carlosyabrudy

    carlosyabrudy Member

    If anyone uses Instagram, I have the same username there :)
     
  16. j_alexandra

    j_alexandra Well-Known Member

    Well done, you, on so many levels! Especially for learning from the experience. Best of luck on your next!
     
  17. snapdancer

    snapdancer Well-Known Member

    Glad you're progressing. But I've found that in dancing, when you reach the top of a mountain what you discover is that there's another mountain that was hidden by the first mountain. Hopefully you like "climbing mountains".

    There are similar levels in learning figures. It's one thing to dance it with an instructor who knows the routine and has the ability to "fill in the blanks" for a beginner's less-than-ideal lead. It gets progressively difficult if you're trying to lead an amateur follow who knows her part but doesn't know yours and how to follow a deficient lead.

    For my own dancing, I don't consider that I have a figure mastered until I reach the point that I can lead a follow who hasn't studied the figure and achieve a result that it's either recognizable as the figure or I'm able to recover and keep dancing even if they don't quite follow correctly.
     
  18. twnkltoz

    twnkltoz Well-Known Member

    Good for you for getting out there and learning from the experience.
     
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  19. RiseNFall

    RiseNFall Well-Known Member

    OP, I think I said earlier in the thread that you remind me of a dancer I know personally in terms of work ethic, athleticism, ambition, etc. He competed after dancing for 2 months as well.

    Your experience of some aspects of your dancing not accompanying you to the competition floor is typical. It will get better with experience competing. As others have noted, you're making good use of the competition as a learning experience.
     
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  20. Larinda McRaven

    Larinda McRaven Site Moderator Staff Member

    Nice job!

    I will say this with regards to your ballroom photo above since you are eager to get it all right away. If you are stepping back on your Left and your lady is stepping forward on her Right heel then your footwork on your Right front foot should be TH... so there are footwork issues to address. Unless you are going forward on your R toe and she is doing a toe release with her R as she is going back on her L... but the swing of her hair suggests YOU are going back. That sounds pedantic and most judges will forgive it as a simple foot error at this point. But if a lack of fundamental footwork understanding continues to exist then your whole body's balance and alignment and coordination will always be subpar. I'm not talking about memorizing heels and toes but literally Understanding how your footwork directly impacts her. Just a thought....
     

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