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Discussion in 'Dancers Anonymous' started by mamboqueen, Sep 20, 2006.

  1. ireniecat

    ireniecat New Member

    I used to sleep on my stomach most of my life, too. But when I started seeing my chiropractor, he convinced me to start sleeping on my back and I was able to get used to it within a few weeks. The key for me is putting a pillow under my calves to shift the angle of my pelvis. Without the pillow, my back arches too much and it's painful.

    Do you get interferential electric muscle stimulation ("electro-therapy") after the adjustment? I think it's mostly used for sports therapy, but it helps hold an adjustment if you do it right after.
     
  2. danceronice

    danceronice Well-Known Member

    I don't mean to be a party pooper, but I would seriously considering ditching the chiropractor and seeing an actual doctor or a licensed physical therapist (preferably one to whom you are referred by an MD/DO). Ask a neurologist about having to deal the damage inflicted by chiropractors playing games with peoples' spines-it's not always a good thing and they don't always know what they're doing, and can hurt you more than help. And a good long-term therapy means you WILL keep the adjustment, at least with a PT (I'm supposed to go to one about my hip, but it's just misalignment, not pain, so I don't, but the PT in question explained "I'll adjust you today, it will feel different, but by tomorrow it'll 'settle' back where it was. It will take months of regular therapy to retrain the muscles and tendons so it's permanent.")
     
  3. ireniecat

    ireniecat New Member

    My experience comes from having a chiropractor who is also a sports therapist and specializes working with dancers, so I might be biased toward chiropractors. :)
     
  4. waltzgirl

    waltzgirl New Member

    Yana, I would suggest you look into Feldenkrais. It's a method of correcting bad physical habits and developing more functional ways of moving. The good thing about it is that, unlike a bad chiropractor (I've experienced both good and bad ones), it's a very gentle non-invasive process, so it is very unlikely to hurt you. It has made dramatic, permanent changes in how I use my body and totally eliminated my back pain. You might even be able to find a physical therapist trained in Feldenkrais (that's how I learned about it).

    The other thing I would suggest is getting some independent coaching from the most technically advanced teacher(s) you can find, preferably female. Ask them to look at how you are creating your latin motion and if there are any technical aspects you could change or improve on. It may be that you are doing something that's unnecessary or counter-productive to create the motion and that's what causing the pain. There may be a more body-friendly was to get the same effect. It may be something your current teacher hasn't noticed or doesn't realize you're doing, or it may be something that works for him (he has a male pelvis) that doesn't work for you.

    Good luck! Sounds like this would be a great time to work on perfecting your foot shaping and arm styling while you get the problem sorted out.
     
  5. samina

    samina Well-Known Member

    yana, you may find rolfing particularly helpful in your case. the chiropractic adjustments allegedly have to continue because the fascia that hold your skeletal frame in place remain in the same distorted state that generates the misalignment or distortion and therefore the problem.

    rolfing adjusts the fascia so that it holds your skeletal frame & joints in the proper alignment... which would eliminate the need for the chiropractice adjustments.

    it's not like taking a pill or an adjustment and then all is better... it's a process, a journey, but it's toward greater wholeness and balance. can't say enuf good things about it, especially for an imbalance like this, and especially for something involving the sacrum/SI joint! :)
     
  6. Joe

    Joe Well-Known Member

    This. You might have damage that should be surgically repaired, rather than just getting neverending "maintenance."
     
  7. Yana

    Yana Member

    I actually started putting a pillow under my stomach/pelvis to get my back in a natural position so that I can still sleep on my stomach :) Some habits are really hard to break!

    I've tried a TENS unit and I didn't really feel a difference.
     
  8. Yana

    Yana Member

    I'm going to an orthopedic doctor tomorrow to get a second opinion. I found some exercises online specifically for the sacroiliac joint pain relief and it helps, but it doesn't make it go away. Actually, stretching really makes it feel better.
     
  9. Yana

    Yana Member

    I'll look into Feldenkrais and I'll speak with my instructor about technical coaching. He's a very experienced dancer and a great instructor. I have confidence he can help me. Great idea about working on my foot shaping and arm styling (at least I can still do that).That will keep my mind off the negative stuff :)
     
  10. Yana

    Yana Member

    I've never heard of rolfing....what is it?
     
  11. Yana

    Yana Member


    I so hope not!!! :shock: Not into surgically repairing things if it can be managed through alternative therapy.
     
  12. skwiggy

    skwiggy Well-Known Member

    There are many ways to address the same problem, and any kind of specialist you go to will try to solve it using their specialty. Of course a chiropractor will believe you need adjustments, a surgeon will believe you need surgery, etc. So go to the type of specialist you believe in to try to solve it in a way you are comfortable with.

    I personally am more in the physical therapy camp and I'm weary of chiropractics, but that's just my personal preference. I also have had great success with acupuncture. And I also would do absolutely anything I could to avoid surgery.
     
  13. danceronice

    danceronice Well-Known Member

    I would be especially concerned that the pain came on two weeks ago, and the adjustments aren't helping and they're making excuses ("Quit dance" rather than "maybe we're treating the wrong thing".) Surgery may not be the answer (and these days, no, they're probably not going to try and make you have surgery if you don't need it, especially as it's becoming apparent back surgery frequently doesn't help.)

    See if you can get a referal to a PT, rather than a chiro, assuming the ortho doesn't find anything acutely, seriously wrong. And if you're feeling adventerous/open-minded (forgot this yesterday) you could look into accupuncture, which is more mainstream than it used to be (probably because it works.)
     
  14. DancinDrea19

    DancinDrea19 New Member

    Wondering if anyone has expirienced this or something similar. For over a month i've had bad pain on the ball of my foot(only right foot) mainly the area near & under my big toe. It's bad enough that it's hard to bear weight on it or point it. I have been away from dance for about 3 weeks b/c of moving to college so I don;t think it's totally from dance. Anyone have any idea of what this could be? It's starting to get to the point where it interferes with other physical activities.
     
  15. Zhena

    Zhena Well-Known Member

    For general, person-to-person advice about foot injuries, there's lots of information in this thread.

    About two years ago, I had a problem that turned out to be an inflamed nerve. I self-medicated with massage and rest, and the problem has not returned.

    But realistically ... if it's interfering with your normal life, the best thing to do is get it checked by a professional who is familiar with all of the possible injuries and solutions. If you wait too long, you could make it much worse than it needs to be.
     
  16. waltzgirl

    waltzgirl New Member

    Drea, been wearing any new shoes? It could be lots of things, but I get pain in what sounds like the same place if I wear shoes that push my big toe in toward the other toes.
     
  17. Yana

    Yana Member


    Yes! I've had that. Mine was from wearing heels all day long. I would have to massage the spot until the pain went away (and that was very painful in itself!). Not much advise I can give you except to massage the area and try some kind of shoe/sole inserts/pads. Mine eventually went away, but I also stopped wearing heels.
     
  18. AMeader

    AMeader New Member

    Could just be soft tissue inflammation from new shoes/lots of practice, could be a bone bruise if you feel like it's your metatarsal/tarsal head that is bothering you, could be plantar fascitis. Have you been using the RICE cure? Rest, ice, compression, elevation... apply after every time you exercise/put pressure on your foot. Also, what do you wear for regular every day shoes? I would recommend a good pair of running/walking shoes, or MBT shoes. Check out the MBT shoe website... I work in healthcare, and they are becoming more and more common for healthcare workers to wear because they give so much support and help strengthen the foot/ankle.
     
  19. DancinDrea19

    DancinDrea19 New Member

    thanks for all the advice everyone! to follow up I did get my foot x-rayed. Turns out i have an evulsion fracture in my right big toe as well as it is sprained. Dr suspects it's from overuse. It's so painful when I dance but it won't keep me from it.....he said no physical activity but i'm in college and walk everywhere so that's not possible anyways..
     
  20. Miguelito123

    Miguelito123 New Member

    Hello Everyone!

    At my wife’s request I started taking ballroom dance a little over two years ago. Little did I know how much joy this would bring to my life. During my time dancing I’ve set goals for myself. My wife has not taken lessons in quite some time due to job demands and I have been forced to find a new instructor due to our studio closing. I finally met a incredibly gifted instructor six months ago and couldn’t be happier with the studio. From the little that I know I feel I’ve gained so much. I told my instructor my ultimate goal is to be able to move freely on the floor, and how I get there doesn’t matter. Unfortunately, I now have to deal with an injury to my left toe. It is called Hallux Rigidis which has greatly affected my dance and my desire. I can only dance 2 times a week for maybe an hour, this of course, is a lot less than when I would practice on my own for an hour every day and take as many as 3 to 4 group classes a week. My physical activity has been greatly reduced, I cannot run and even have trouble walking. It appears I have no alternative but to have surgery to remove bone spurs at the joint of my big toe. Best case scenario I may be back dancing in four months. Worst case they fuse the joint and I’m probably done dancing.

    How do you stay positive?
     

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